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Poster: tigerbolt Date: Sep 3, 2008 2:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

pat i've tried and tried to get into the music the rest
of the band has been doing but the soul is missing.it's not
bad and a lot better than most crap on the radio but it falls
short.i also agree they should change it to some deadheads
for che obama,the guy is a flat out socialist and for big
government.more programs,more taxes.americans need to start
taking more responsibility for their actions and be less
depended on the government.we need to raise are children
right and stop placing blame on hollywood and music when
the children stray towards the wrong path.we are suppose to
run this country not uncle sam.we need to hold are leaders
accountable for their actions,they work for us.they are the
sheep not the citzens.somewhere along the way that got lost.
destroy the special interest groups who are destroying america.let your voices be heard and take it to the streets
if you have to.know your candidates before you vote and
don't let the media dictate your vote,which is what's happening now.ask anyone what are che obama and mcbush views
on certain issues and i bet 75% couldn't give you a answer.
that's sad.change..change...change..has he given a straight
answer on his plan for change?no because he doesn't have one
except for more taxes,bigger government.lets take are country back.we need another major party and a limit on campaign funds so everyone has a voice.fight the power.
as for the band getting back together i hope they have fun
but it will never be as close as it was.that jerry void
is to hard to overcome.kesey sumed up jerry the best and no
artist they pick can fill those shoes.

by Ken Kesey

by Ken Kesey

Hey, Jerry-- what's happening? I caught your funeral. Weird. Big Steve was good. And Grissman. Sweet sounds. But what really stood out -- stands out -- is the thundering silence, the lack, the absence of that golden Garcia lead line, of that familiar slick lick with the uptwist at the end, that merry snake twining through the woodpile, flickering in and out of the loosely stacked chords...a wriggling mystery, bright and slick as fire... suddenly gone.

And the silence left in its wake was-- is-- positively ear-splitting.

Now they want me to say something about that absence, Jer. Tell some backstage story, share some poigniant reminescence. But I have to tell you, man: I find myself considerably disinclined. I mean, why go against the grain of such an eloquent silence?

I remember standing out in the pearly early dawn after the Muir Beach Acid Test, leaning on the top rail of a driftwood fence with you and Lesh and Babbs, watching the world light up, talking about our glorious futures. The gig had been semi-successful and the air was full of exulted fantasies. Babbs whacks Phil on the back.

"Just like the big time, huh Phil."

"It is! It is the big time! Why, we could cut a chart-busting record to-fucking-morrow!"

I was even more optimistic. "Hey, we taped tonight's show. We could release a record tomorrow.

"Yeah right--" (holding up that digitally challenged hand the way you did when you wanted to call attention to the truth or the lack thereof) "--and a year from tomorrow be recording a Things Go Better With Coke commercial."

You could be a sharp-tongued popper-of-balloons shit-head when you were so inclined, you know. A real bastard. You were the sworn enemy of hot air and commercials, however righteous the cause or lucrative the product. Nobody ever heard you use that microphone as a pulpit. No anti-war rants, no hymns to peace. No odes to the trees and All things Organic. No ego-deaths or born-againnesses. No devils denounced no gurus glorified. No dogmatic howlings that I ever caught wind of. In fact, your steadfast denial of dogma was as close as you ever came to having a creed.

And to the very end, Old Timer, you were true to that creed. No commercials. No trendy spins. No bayings of belief. And if you did have any dogma you surely kept it tied up under the back porch where a smelly old hound belongs.

I guess that's what I mean about a loud silence. Like Michaelangelo said about sculpting, "The statue exists inside the block of marble. All you have to do is chip away the stone you don't need." You were always chipping away at the superficial.

It was the false notes you didn't play that kept that lead line so golden pure. It was the words you didn't sing. So this is what we are left with, Jerry: this golden silence. It rings on and on without any hint of let up...on and on. And I expect it will still be ringing years from now.

Because you're still not playing falsely. Because you're still not singing Things Go Better With Coke.

Ever your friend,

Keez



This post was modified by tigerbolt on 2008-09-03 21:17:18

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 3, 2008 2:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

After reading the Keesy quote, I've gone back to delete my post. I'll let Ken take the very appropriate last words (for me).

This post was modified by bluedevil on 2008-09-03 21:35:01

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 3, 2008 2:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

wow, hadnt seen that first kesey quote before that tiger posted.

yeah BD - kinda says a whole lot dont it?? tough to argue that one.

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Poster: spacedface Date: Sep 3, 2008 3:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

"It was the false notes you didn't play that kept that lead line so golden pure."

Garcia obviously has admirable qualities, even enough to reach the gold ring.

But really it's easy to recognize there were false notes that were played -- if you ever listened to the 80s and 90s! I don't have the cure for him or me, but being self-centered lead to self-medication that only covered up problems. Hopefully Garcia beat his demons there at the end (and if he didn't I'm not sure I could).

Who knows, maybe Jerry would have looked at the $9 trillion debt of a country run by oil and military and the rapidly melting ice caps with a refreshed outlook and decided that it was time for the ass to set the mind free.

Even if it's only blocking evil (or the nothing if you will) for a time. No one really expects Obama to change much; it's a group decision after all.



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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 3, 2008 3:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

Herman Göring: Why, of course, the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.
Gilbert: There is one difference. In a democracy, the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars.
Göring: Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.
In an interview with Gilbert in Göring's jail cell during the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials (18 April 1946)

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 3, 2008 3:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

are you shitting me???? never read that from Goring before.

nice post BD - very informative - historically, ideologically, and psychologically

cant say i disagree with him - he is spot on.

got to think about his words some, and digest them.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 3, 2008 3:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

speaking of melting ice shelfs, did you see the news. fucking piece the size of manhattan let loose - a piece that they didnt think was going to break.

spaced, i am with you on this - i am afraid of the arctic melt - cant be sure what is causing it, but we can do our part to slow it.

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Poster: NoiseCollector Date: Sep 3, 2008 3:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

Don't tread on me.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 3, 2008 3:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

Just to remind folks what Dylan said:

"There's no way to measure his greatness or magnitude as a person or as a player. I don't think eulogizing will do him justice. He was that great - much more than a superb musician with an uncanny ear and dexterity. He is the very spirit personified of whatever is muddy river country at its core and screams up into the spheres. He really had no equal. To me he wasn't only a musician and friend, he was more like a big brother who taught and showed me more than he'll ever know. There are a lot of spaces and advances between the Carter Family, Buddy Holly and, say, Ornette Coleman, a lot of universes, but he filled them all without being a member of any school. His playing was moody, awesome, sophisticated, hypnotic and subtle. There's no way to convey the loss. It just digs down really deep."